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LaTourette No, Ryan Yes To Ohio Jobs

07/11/2009
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us_capitol_building_cli_01Congress has taken a historic step towards a clean energy economy by passing the American Clean Energy and Security Act (H.R. 2454).

17th Ohio District Congressman Tim Ryan (D) voted in favor of the bill while 14th Ohio District Congressman Steve LaTourette (R) voted against it.

Tho the major shift in our energy policy, coupled with the dire predictions of the scientific community regarding “global warming” demand we do more, this is definitely a step in the right direction.

Amanda Moore, Environment Ohio, stated that,

The bill (H.R. 2454) will bolster over 440 businesses in Ohio that are already involved in the green industry.

TimRyan04It would appear that the young Congressman from the Mahoning Valley is progressive and far sighted enough to see the advantages of this bill to his constituants and District, where as the Congressman of “No” is stuck in the politics of same old, same old and beholding to the past and not the future for those who live in the 14th District.

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  1. 07/11/2009 12:41 pm

    Dear Tristan,
    I am afraid that I can not agree with your take on this matter. Oh, by the way, I am a candidate for Tim Ryan seat next spring.

    Unfortunately, 86 percent of Ohio’s electrical power is provided by coal and as Obama has said, “You can go ahead and build a coal fire generating plant if you want to but this bill will bankrupt you”. So where does that leave us?

    Just passing a bill saying we are switching to renewables won’t make it so, if the technology to do it is still not invented. If it were as easy as passing legislation and earmarking funding for research, we could have completely cured cancer years ago.

    Here is my proposal, though I am fairly certain you will not agree with it. You can learn more about me from my web site: http://www.danmoadus.org/

    Here is what I propose:

    Though I disagree with the “Global warming” crowd I think we can agree on at least three things.

    First: We know that the Earth has been in existence for nearly four billion years, and mankind has been around for about ten thousand, with only the last hundred or so of those years being industrialized. So in this long existence, any damage caused by mankind has been limited to this narrow time span. Also knowing that the Earth has been through many cataclysmic climate events, I think it is safe to say that it will survive for another 25 years or so, regardless of what we do, or don’t do. Other than Ted Danson, or Al Gore, most reasonable people don’t see us perishing in the next decade or so.

    Second: I don’t see, even the environmental zealots making the claim that we are being killed by dirty air. I think most people understand that life expectancy has risen continually, and we will probably continue doing so.

    And third: We share the atmosphere with the rest of the world. We don’t have an “American atmosphere”. Bad emissions from American cars and industries will circle the globe, and bad emissions from other nations will as well.

    With these three things in mind and considering the present plight we find our economy in, don’t you think we could take a break from saving the globe for a couple of decades and allow American industry a little breathing room so that it can be revived. Let China and India take up the fight for the next 10 years, because if they decide not to worry about the environment, and continue to build their industries at the pace they are currently doing, it won’t matter how “green” America becomes anyways.

    Lets get off the backs of American industry for a while so that It can do what it does best, which of course is to lead the world. We need to restore our industrial base and economy, to secure a decent standard of living for our children.

    Lets take a gamble that the globe can make if for another 20 or 25 years, and then revisit the global warming issue. In the mean time maybe China and India could be persuaded to join us in making the necessary changes.

    Taking into account the rapid pace of technology (think of all the products that didn’t even exist 25 years ago) there more than likely will be fuel and battery technologies developed in the next decade or so that we can’t envision today, that will help all of the world protect and restore the environment. Lets not make our Country destitute before that happens.

  2. Michael Barefield permalink
    07/12/2009 7:54 am

    As a contributor to Dare To Dream, I’m very pleased that we caught the attention of Mr. Moadus and thank him for his response to Tristan’s Op-Ed. As a former Ohioan, I had to stop and consider whether a response from me is even appropriate as, in the strictest sense, I have no horse in the race. That is, I can’t vote for Mr. Moadus or Mr. Ryan. Alas, the decision of of each member of congress affects every American citizen where federal legislation is concerned and so I chime in.

    Mr. Moadus’ declaration that he disagrees with the “global warming crowd” says it all. The evidence that global warming is occurring and that if we are not causing it, we are certainly a major contributing factor, is irrefutable and readily available. As a starting point, I direct you to http://ecobridge.org/content/g_evd.htm. I encourage you to educate yourself; consider the sources and make your own decision.

    The text of HR2454 calls for regulation to be implemented over time. It seems quite fair to me and I think it is very unlikely that it will discourage business development. Please see the summary of the bill or read its full text and amendments at http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-2454&tab=summary. Manufacturing in this country has been in the toilet for years for reasons other than governmental environmental regulation. I, too, would like to see the return of the blue collar job. These other factors must be responsibly addressed if we are ever again to see a time when folks can graduate from high school and go get a good-paying job in manufacturing. Passing this bill is far more likely to generate good-paying jobs than cause us to lose any. Progressive thinkers see this very clearly and anyone who can read and comprehend what s(he) has read will see this very clearly upon reading the bill.

    Mr. Moadus’ request that we “get off the backs of American industry” has been tried. Indeed, from 1/20/01 through 1/20/09, we weren’t on anyone’s back. Look where it got us. Sorry, in my opinion, for what it’s worth, Mr. Moadus is a republican in democratic clothing.

  3. Andy1701 permalink
    07/12/2009 9:30 pm

    Like many others, Dan Moadus only tells half the story. Obama did indeed say that building a traditional coal-fired power plant would bankrupt a company under cap and trade provisions “because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.”

    However, in the same answer to a question from the San Fransisco Chronicle, Obama also said, “If technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.”

    Examining the truth of charges leveled at Obama because of this quote, The LA Times pointed out last November that, “John McCain favors a cap-and-trade program very similar to Obama’s.”

    It is disheartening that politicians, who want to be quoted accurately, continue level false claims against their opponents. Moadus should have known his claim had been refuted months before he chose to spread this misinformation.

  4. Andy1701 permalink
    07/12/2009 9:44 pm

    Another thing.

    On his web site, Moadus repeats one other false claim.

    He says the economic stimulus bill gives ACORN — the group conservative talk show hosts love to bash — $4 billion. According to the web site Media Matters, that claim was made Jan. 29 by Fox and Friends co-host Steve Doocy, and a few days earlier a similar claim was made by House Minority Leader John Boehner.

    Setting him straight, Media Matters — which searches out the truth — said the stimulus bill: “contains no language mentioning ACORN. The false claim is based on a misrepresentation of a provision that would appropriate $4,190,000,000 “for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes.” The bill would require that money be distributed through competitive processes and states that “not less than $3,440,000,000 shall be allocated by a competition” to “States, units of general local government, and nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities.” It also provides that “up to $750,000,000 shall be awarded by competition to nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities to provide community stabilization assistance.”

    Politicians like Moadus should stick to the truth.

  5. 07/14/2009 12:30 pm

    Hi,

    Isabelle here form OpenCongress.org. I just wanted to write quickly and let you know that your recent blog post on H.R.2454 got picked up by our blog aggregator and is now posted in our list of articles on that bill. Now people looking for information on the bill can find your article through its bill page on OpenCongress. Check it out here:

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h2454/blogs

    Since you’re writing about bills in Congress on  your blog, I encourage you to check out OpenCongress as a research tool and a source for finding out what’s hot in Congress. One of main functions that you ca see off the homepage is to provide context to bills, showing which ones are being viewed by people the most, which are being blogged about the most, and which are in the news the most. You can also follow the OpenCongress Blog for updates on stuff that’s moving in Congress.

    http://www.opencongress.org/blog

    Best,
    -Isabelle

  6. elecpencil permalink
    07/16/2009 8:20 am

    Tristan ~ I heard Dan Moadus interviewed on WKBN. The only thing I agreed with him on was that his name is Dan Moadus. I tend to base my vote on what is good for my children’s future. Here is why I couldn’t vote for Moadus in his own words, “don’t you think we could take a break from saving the globe for a couple of decades and allow American industry a little breathing room so that it can be revived.” Also Dan says, “Lets take a gamble that the globe can make if for another 20 or 25 years, and then revisit the global warming issue.”

    Dan proposes to care about my kids when he says, “We need to restore our industrial base and economy, to secure a decent standard of living for our children.”

    How about my kids having a clean planet without gambling that letting companies pollute is OK? Moadus is just one more company tool that would let us walk around 24/7 in gas masks if it would protect industry. Don’t we already have enough corporate owned “representatives” in D.C. ?

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